Trust and confidence: it applies to people, as well as allied countries

When the NSA and CSEC and GCHQ spy on other countries, who are allied to them, the response from those spied upon is as follows: "What you are doing is wrong, what you are doing is causing us to lose trust in you, and it will cause us not to cooperate with you."

If we take this idea to its logical conclusion WE are all getting spied upon by the NSA, CSEC and GCHQ. Does this mean, and I think it does, that we will lose trust in our governments, and we will stop feeling cooperative with our governments and their authority, yes it does.

I feel this is a logical conclusion of this way of governing, but don't take my word for it, consider life as it existed in NAZI Germany or later, East Germany, or in Romania, or Soviet Russia. What happened?

People snitched on each other to gain advantage within their society, it undermined the fabric of society, it led to black markets and civil unrest.

I suppose life moves in great archs, and humans, because we are all born and must learn how to live in society from the same baseline, make the same mistakes, over and over again, we must be burnt by flame to understand "don't touch" its the human condition.

But with regards to our government spying on us, in the bedroom, on the phone, in the church, in our community meetings and especially on line, there is but one logical conclusion, we will, eventually, and likely after things go from bad to worse, finally, pull away from our timmies and our hockey, and revolt.

I wish this would not happen, and that now, people will speak up and through our political processes cause these large agencies, in canada, the RCMP, CSEC, CSIS, to be reined in and that in future, politicians, such as VIC TEOWS will "smarten up" and realized that any society that sacrifices libertarian values for "security" are destined to repeat the same unpleasant cycles of the past. Instead, lets learn from our mistakes and move onward, and upwards to a better society.